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Transcript of SFP#9: I Love Free Software Day

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Welcome to the Software Freedom Podcast.

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This podcast is presented to you by the Free Software Foundation Europe.

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We are a charity that empowers users to control technology.

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I'm Matthias Kushner, the President of the Free Software Foundation Europe, and I'm doing

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this podcast together with my colleague, Bonnie Merring.

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Hello.

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In this podcast episode, we will talk about the I Love Free Software Day, and we will

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discover how it came into existence.

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And I also talked with several people from our community and asked them why they think

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it's important to say thank you and celebrate the I Love Free Software Day and share our

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love for free software together.

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So Matthias, how did the I Love Free Software Day came into existence nearly 11 years ago?

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So yeah, that was in the end of 2009, beginning of 2010, where I was not a big fan of the

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Valentine's Day and I didn't like this commercial aspects of it, connecting this with saying

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others that you like them or love them.

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And so I just had this idea that when now on the Valentine's Day on 14th of February,

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the flower industry is always benefiting.

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Can't we use this day to benefit some of the groups?

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I appreciate a lot.

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So I thought it might be nice to use this day as a day to encourage people to say thank

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you in the free software community.

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And yeah, from this idea, it then started that we thought, okay, others agreed, let's

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use this day to encourage people to say thank you to other free software contributors.

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And we started to announce this day then and encourage people to do this.

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And from there on, then it started.

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So it was mainly a bit annoyance on the day as it is in several countries with a lot

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of commercial part of it.

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And then how can we translate that to our free software community and not just the

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romantic part of it?

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Okay, so you decided to share some love for free software.

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And what would you say was the most memorable activity or, yeah, let's say activity that

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happened during the last 11 years for the I love free software day?

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I think it's really difficult to point that to nail it down on one or a few activities.

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So for me, there are a few things, of course, which I remember, I directly remember, like

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as someone who loves comics myself, there are some really nice comics there, which people

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created for the I love free software day, there was also a very nice activity by some

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FSFE volunteers in Berlin and Frankfurt, where they use so-called gobo-pro-checktours.

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So light pro-checktours and during the night, pro-checkt it free software messages on

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public buildings.

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And one other part was also very, very nice to see that after a few years, there were other

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people joining, more people joining, then also some political parties or politicians joining

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like in one year, there was the whole parliamentary group of the Green Party in Germany, which

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shared an article by the I love free software with a picture of themselves.

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Or I remember a short video by Julia Reda throwing down some balloons with VLC colors.

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It was a video online color there and I think she was wearing a hat of VLC there.

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And we also, I remember that we were sitting in the FSFE office folding letters and adding

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roses to them, sending it to all members in the German parliament.

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And yeah, there were some other highlights, like at the first year or the second year,

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I was preparing some chocolate hearts with the message I love free software, but I love

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you more.

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And I was selling them at Fostem at the booth.

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Yeah, that was also nice or also other smaller things like decorating the office with balloons

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and baking muffins for my colleagues.

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That's something which I remember of course.

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And yeah, then also some, I think in general, it's really, it's a sum of all those small

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activities.

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It's it's some people or organizations who participated every year, like, I mean, definitely

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like wiki data or the document foundation day every year from what I remember they participated

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there.

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And people were sending messages every year, some had some really good ideas in one year.

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And so there were so many cool pictures and things I heard from others that they received

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the thank you by someone else and we're very happy about that.

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And so it's, it's really the sum of all those small things, not so much that the big ones

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I just mentioned.

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Yeah, I also remember them, but it's more this general feeling about all those small messages

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which I heard about.

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Okay, so it's more the coming together and sharing our love and our support for free software.

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Now, I mean, for me, the main aspect is still that people say thank you to someone else.

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And I mean, the activities there, they, a few of them, which I mentioned, they were there

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so that we can remind people to say thank you.

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But it's not so much about those activities or this part of it.

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The most important thing for me is the, the part that people actually do this.

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And they, they lead by, they don't so much talk about saying thank you, but they actually

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say thank you.

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Okay, this is a really good answer.

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What would you say, how did the I love free software they change over the years?

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Was there a difference in celebrating the I love free software, the early stages of

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the campaign to compare, for example, this year or the last year?

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I mean, I think in general, you, you see a little bit how, how it became a bit more professional.

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How we do it as a beginning when I, when I read the, the all the announcements, I think

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you can explain it well better nowadays with some more experience.

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Then we also, of course, over the time we had some, some more graphics.

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We had some t-shirts you can wear to promote it or to show your, your love for the work

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of others.

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There are some balloons, leaflets, or in one year we had some stress balls.

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So in case when, when you, when you want to write an angry buck report during the year or

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so you remember, oh, yeah, I should be thankful to others.

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Let's press this a hundred times and then write this, this email again.

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And any general, I mean, one of the things that, that you see is that more and more people

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participated and, and that it became and quite established tradition meanwhile that you

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don't have to remind people about it again, but they already have it in their calendars.

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There are even some, some programs where there are pop-up notices about the I love free software.

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They, so, yeah, it's from, from the message itself, it didn't change much.

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People had a lot of great ideas, what, what you can do there and that's inspiring others

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again then.

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But in general, it, it stayed the same over all those years that it's a day to thank

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other free software contributors about their, for their work and encourage others to do

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the same by doing this.

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So.

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Okay.

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And why do you think it is important to say thank you?

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Well, I think for, if you appreciate something others do, then why not say it to them?

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So I think it's motivating to receive feedback from others that you are doing something important.

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It's, it's something that, yeah, don't, don't just think about someone else is doing

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something great.

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Oh, I like their work, but actually say it, say it out loud, tell them either, I mean,

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say it to them in an email where you write in there in your own name, if you feel the

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child whatsoever, then you can also like with Valentine's Day, original day, also send

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an anonymous message thanking them for their work.

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And I think if you, if there's one day where you remember to say thank you, it's then

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also way easier to remember saying thank you over the rest of the year.

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So I mean, that's, that's one of the things that the goal when we started that was not

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so much that just say thank you on this one day and the rest of the year, you can be,

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you can say bad things to others and behave inappropriate and so on, that's not the idea.

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The idea is remember to be thankful to others, thank them for their work, either if they

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do their work in their volunteer time or if they even also do their free software work

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being paid for it.

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If you benefit from that and you appreciate other people's work there, use this day

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to say thank you.

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And while doing that, then afterwards remember to also do that over the rest of the year

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because you don't have to wait for the 14th of February.

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You can tell them also during summer or in the end of the year that you, you like what

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they are doing.

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And I mean, I'm, I'm just convinced that when you did it once, it's easier to do it the

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next time and when you did it twice, it's easier to do it the third time.

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So I hope that it helps people to say thank you several times during the year and say thank

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you to other people there who are also working for software freedom.

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So I was also wondering what others from the free software community think about the

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free software day and why they think it's important to share our love for free software.

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I talked to several people from the free software community and asked them why they think

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it's important to say thank you.

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I would like to start with Greg Farrow from the free software foundation with Greg Crower

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Hartman, who's one of the Linux kernel developers with Lydia Pincher, who's the vice president

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from KDE and the Florian Femberga, who is the executive director of that document foundation.

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So Greg, why do you think it's important to say thank you.

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Hey, this is Greg Farrow, the campaigns manager at the free software foundation.

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You know, all of us in the community depend on free software, but we don't always take

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the time to let its developers and development community know how much we appreciate them.

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So I'm glad we have something like I love free software day to remind us to do that.

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Hey, Greg.

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So why do you think it's important to say thank you?

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It's important to thank anybody who does something that they don't have to do for your use,

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right?

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I mean, that's just nice.

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That's good manners.

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They're giving you something that they don't have to give you, but they are and you can

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take advantage of that.

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You can use that, not take advantage.

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You can use that.

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So of course they should be thanked.

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Do you think it keeps projects alive?

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It's just basic human manners.

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So yes, it's always nice to feel appreciated, right?

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So if somebody sends me something or if I send a patch out to somebody, I want to at least

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have it acknowledged that they received it, whether it's good, whether it's bad or

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what not, because if not, then why would you want to continue to contribute?

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So yes, I think it's very important for projects to do that.

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Why do you think it's important to say thank you?

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I think it's really important to say thank you to each other in free software, because

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so many people pour in endless hours of work and it can be rare, rare, endless job at

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times.

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And a simple thank you here and there can really help show some appreciation and show

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that the work that people are doing is really valuable and appreciated.

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Do you think it keeps people motivated?

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Yes, seeing the positive impact that your work has on other people is really motivating

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and one way to know that your work is actually having an impact and that your program, for

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example, is being used by someone is if someone sent you an email saying thank you for what

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you've done and showing some appreciation for that.

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Hello, nice to meet you.

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So I'm Florian from the Document Foundation, I'm the Executive Director and I've been

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involved in the Libre Office project for many, many years since the beginning and in

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the area of free software, I think since 2004, so for quite a while.

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So I think it's important to remember that free software basically drives our lives every

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day.

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So when you wake up in the morning, you might have one of those fancy coffee machines

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at home that help you start into the day on the road when we're working, we have mobiles

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and tablets that help us to be productive, then we use the internet for research, also

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streaming music and movies and of course these days staying in touch with our loved ones

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while we're conferencing and all of that even if we might not know that is often powered

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by free software.

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Looking at the future, cars driving, autonomous and whatnot, also that can literally be driven

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by free software and free software traditionally is created in communities.

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But communities are in the end always made up of human beings, of individuals contributing

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for whatever reason.

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It wasn't here, it paid, they worked together on the same goal and I think it's important

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to thank everyone involved because it helps you to stay motivated, that is an appreciation,

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that means we don't take things for granted but we appreciate what you're doing and it

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goes from developers to localizers to testers, people marketing, design, infrastructure

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and all the dozens of areas that we have in free software that help to make these ideas

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come to life.

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So it's important to thank everyone who contributes their time, their passion and their skills

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into that area.

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I also talk with two people from the FSF Eastlinger Network, Miriam Bauhausen who is also part

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of the program committee of the legal licensing workshop and Pamela Chastak, who is also part

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of the legal network and is also on the board of the open sites initiative.

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So let's see what they have to say.

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Hi, I'm Miriam Bauhausen and I'm here to say thank you to free software developers because

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they have been really involved in a really good idea and really good approach and software

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is just everywhere and they have been supporting development of software for such a long time

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and engaging in the community and making things better for everyone.

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Hi, I'm Pamela.

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The free software movement sort of restores my faith in humanity and I know that that's

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kind of a big statement to make, but we have this, so I'm a copyright lawyer.

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So the things that I say tend to focus on the law and sort of the legal aspects, but I

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do know that I have kind of blinders on.

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But the reason I say that is that there's this sort of belief that people only create

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works if they're compensated for it.

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That's actually built into the US Constitution that says, well, we'll protect copyright because

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it encourages people to create works in order to financially exploit them.

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And I've kind of never believed that.

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And so the entire free software world creates these works because they love what they do,

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they love to create them.

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And they're not, yes, getting paid to do it is a lovely thing, but there's so much more

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motive behind that.

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And it's a motive of sharing and a motive of caring about other people and about collaboration.

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And so it's just a very inspiring environment and movement for me to be involved with because

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people are so giving of themselves and I just really am very touched by that.

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And last but not least, I talked with Paulina Malaya, who is a volunteer 30 FSF East care

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team, for example.

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And she also works for a center who is the council of European national top level domain

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registry.

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And her answer let me reflect on the way I think about free software in a more philosophical

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way.

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I'm really happy to share her answer with you.

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Free software powers our world.

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Our phones, the internet of things and pieces of critical digital infrastructure run on

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free software.

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However, behind these devices and applications are people who build, maintain and improve

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this for the benefit of all.

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As free software allows everybody to use, study, share and improve it, the individual effort

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behind can sometimes be a bit more hidden because it may seem that in a way it belongs

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to everybody and nobody at the same time.

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But this is misleading.

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And I think that it is important to thank free software developers for their continuous

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contributions and all the great software out there that helps out communities, researchers,

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tinkerers and everyone else to be empowered by technology.

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Their continuous efforts are needed to ensure that free software remains the cornerstone

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of open culture and free society.

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I also ask those people who they would like to say thank you to and I'm grateful that

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I now have the opportunity to share their love and their thanks for free software with

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you and with the whole free software community and the different projects they say thank

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you to.

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Just listen to their answers.

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For my part, I'd like to thank all the developers and hackers on GNU EMAX and GNU Screen.

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Two tools I've been using just about as long as I can remember and thanks to you to all

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the free software supporters out there who keep on advocating for freedom in their communities

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whether that's the workplace school, wherever they happen to be.

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Thanks a lot, see you next year.

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I thank everybody who contributes to Linux when they send me a patch.

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So I thank them by acknowledging their change and either giving them feedback or saying

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that I accept their patch and thanks for that.

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So I do that today for Linux, but there's loads of other projects out there that I rely

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on every day.

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So the tools that I rely on, like the compilers, GCC, Coreytales from GNU Project, MUT,

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my email client, browsers, Chrome or Firefox.

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I rely on these every day, X windows, the wayland, the basic low-level plumbing of Linux

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is what I rely on every day.

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So I think I would love to thank those authors and thank them for doing that work because

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it enables me to make a kernel that everybody else can build those things on top of.

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So thank you.

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There are a lot of people I would think starting with every single contributor that puts time

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into making KDE software amazing, of course, since that is my home community, so to say.

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But there's a ton of other people who make the software that I use every day.

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You can go on with the Linux distribution that I use or the video land people who make

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an amazing video player just to name a few.

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So I feel there's probably too many to remember.

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Of course, with my LibreOffice head on, I'd like to thank all the contributors to LibreOffice

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and to the documentation project, whether they're in the videos, companies, the end users,

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the donors, all of them they make the project fly without them, the project wouldn't be possible.

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And then thinking of my use of free software, there are so many projects worldwide, some

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of them really visible.

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You have a browser, you have a mail client, but then there are many projects that we might

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not immediately recognize to provide the infrastructure that we use, that runs somehow

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magically in the background or they provide libraries for the tools that we build.

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So there are so many projects that I really don't want to just focus on one specific name.

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I use a lot of free software each day, I'm productive with that, I get entertainment

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with that, I can grow my skills with free software, I can hack around a bit.

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So I'd just like to thank everyone who's involved in that, as a coder, being working on open

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standards, spreading the word, documenting, localizing, I think each and every contribution

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is really important, each and every contribution makes a difference.

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And we all need one another, so it's really great to be part of a community, be it as a consumer

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or as a creator, so just like to thank everyone dedicating their energy and passion into that.

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It really improves our daily lives and for me personally is a big part of what my personal

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and professional life is about.

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I would thank the fantastic people on the legal network who continuously raised such great

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questions and provide input, provide their thoughts on whatever questions they come up with,

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whatever questions they have, and interesting material they run across, and it's just great

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to be a part of that and great to connect with them, discuss with them, and it's just always

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a good time to hear from them.

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I certainly would love to thank all of the open source lawyers who have helped me learn

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and continue to help me learn.

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They are universally generous with their time and knowledge and allow me to get the knowledge

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that I have, so certainly I thank them so much.

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And I thank those, one person who particularly comes to mind is Karen Sandler, who has, if

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you've heard her story, she's a very personal story about why she's involved in open source

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software and free software, which is, you know, it sort of exemplifies to me what the

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value is of free software and why we need to have it and why it's important.

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Just, you know, so many, just so many, everybody that I meet at the conferences when I go to

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FASDEM and, you know, have the opportunity to see all the developers and all the energy.

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It's just a wonderful, wonderful experience.

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So I just so many people, just incredibly grateful to know such wonderful people.

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I would like to thank everybody who is behind such great projects and communities like,

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first of all, Nupi G, then from a soft, of course, signal and my two favorite Linux distributions

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Ubuntu and elementary.

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And finally, I just want to say thanks to all other countless, wonderful free software

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projects out there as well, that I forgot to mention, but that continue improving my everyday

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life.

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I would like to say thank you to Greg Farrell, to Greg Karohatman, to Lydia, Florian,

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Pavela, Palina and Miriam for their contribution to this podcast.

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Thank you, Roomba.

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Thanks to you, Bonnie, for making sure that more people know about the other free software

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day and hopefully say thank you.

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So especially in the times of little direct feedback at events like when you usually meet

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people at a conference and send them, give them a short sign of the abbreviation, short

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thank you.

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It's, it's especially important now to, to thank people who are working towards more software

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freedom there.

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So my request to you is use this 14th of February, make sure that you say at least one other

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person in our movement, thank you about it, about their work.

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And yeah, then hopefully we can all soon do that again in person.

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But for this year, please remember to do this in a virtual way.

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Thank you very much.

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